one of those "captain of industry" days... I've yet to sort out the wiring dilemma, but I did manage to get the second sat dish receiver hooked up and cooking. :) Despite my best... ...measure twice, ...get the right tools, ...borrow proper ladders, ...drink fresh coffee*, ...get my work gloves , ...and take pictures of everything before I touch it, in case I fuck it up, efforts, ... the very first thing I do is climb the ladder, check a screw, grab the screw driver and ... smash that phillips screw driver directly into the center of my baby finger... like in the center of the finger print zone. A lovely star shaped hole . *sigh* Any ways... in the end I went from [ :: this :: ] to [ :: this :: ] which includes hiding the wire all the way along the house edge and shooting it to basement with the other one, and hooking it to the coax grounding tag... then running new cable from there to the panel that feeds the coax cable I put in the wall last summer when I had to rebuild that whole wall (water damage). The big deal was actually taking apart part of the dish to put the new connection in it... I was marginally terrified I'd mess up the sat reception... The result? The recently grandfathered satellite decoder that made room for the PVR has been pressed back into service in the basement on the "other" tv... aka... the "kids" tv or the "nintendo" tv... The kids played outside in brilliant sunshine... the fort my next-door-nei and I built last summer in the barren forest behind the house was the hub of neighborhood kid activity all day and there was much yelling, bike riding, crashing, skateboarding and ball throwing... while various adults got together and chit chatted... This is called "Cave Season is Dead" day... It's lovely to see everyone out and about. The kids are just about ready for bed... all showered and fluffy looking... Time to go be bed-time-story-reader. :)